- Craps Buy Bet Payout
- Craps Lay Bets Payout Bet
- Craps Lay Bets Payout Odds
- Craps Come Bet Odds Payout
- Craps Lay Bets Payouts
- Here is an overview of craps bets with medium odds that you can make. Have a 16.7% chance of winning an Any 7 bet, with a payout of 4/1. This gives the house a substantial edge of 16.9%. This is quite high compared to some of the bets we've seen above, yet still a solid choice if you're chasing more slightly more daring bets.
- A lay bet is the opposite of a place bet. You bet that the shooter rolls a 7 before they roll the number you bet on. The payout for these bets are not as good as odds bets. You get 1:2 odds on 4 and 10, 2:3 odds on 5 and 9, and 5:6 odds on 6 or 8.
- There are six craps lay bets available to dark siders. You can lay the 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10. Those are the same numbers that become points if the shooter rolls them on the comeout, and the same numbers available to right bettors as place bets.
- While lay betting on craps offer true odds this gives the casino no edge so therefor they collect a vigorish (vig). To get around this the casino's take the vigorish which is 5% of all winning bets. So say you place a lay bet of £40 on 4, and the shooter rolls a 7 then you will win £19. So your £40 pays 1 to 2, which makes £20.
The true odds is 5/6, so the true payout for 96 is 80. 80 happens to be 4/5ths of the original amount. So the vig is 4% of the bet and the payout is 80% of the bet, i.e. Interestingly in the UK, a lay bet on the 6 or 8 pays 4/5! Vig should be paid on the WIN for a lay bet, not the BET.
Most people know about keys to the stuff in the middle, hi-lo-yo stuff, etc, but today on craps someone threw in $700 to lay against the 8 and the box pretty much knew immediately that the vig was $28 where $560 wins $672. He said he had a key that he figured out himself and he wouldn't share it. I managed to get out of someone else that for this one it involves getting 4% of the amount to calculate the vig, 20 times that amount ($560) to determine what you win, and from here you can pretty easily figure out what to pay. ($500 wins $600, $60 wins $72). He refuses to share the others out of arrogance. What would they be for 4/5/9/10? It's probably not hard to figure out but I don't know where to start.
Sorry. I posted up something, but I don't think I'm qualified to answer this.
I think it was called TheCrapsDealersLounge.Com or DealersLounge.Com
So the vig is 4% of the bet and the payout is 80% of the bet, i.e. $28 and $560.
Interestingly in the UK, a lay bet on the 6 or 8 pays 4/5!
I am assuming they want to keep 4% of your bet, so if you were to pass over 100, that would mean the bet is 96. The true odds is 5/6, so the true payout for 96 is 80. 80 happens to be 4/5ths of the original amount.
So the vig is 4% of the bet and the payout is 80% of the bet, i.e. $28 and $560.
Interestingly in the UK, a lay bet on the 6 or 8 pays 4/5!
Vig should be paid on the WIN for a lay bet, not the BET. I haven't been following them math on this thread, but that is how it has always been done with me. Sometimes an ignorant/slimy (take your pick) pit boss will try to change me 5% on the bet, and I will correct them.
Lay the 4 for $1000? Vig is $25. (Win is 1/2 or $500, 500*.05=25)
Vig should be paid on the WIN for a lay bet, not the BET. I haven't been following them math on this thread, but that is how it has always been done with me. Palm beach kennel club poker room hours. Sometimes an ignorant/slimy (take your pick) pit boss will try to change me 5% on the bet, and I will correct them.
Lay the 4 for $1000? Vig is $25. (Win is 1/2 or $500, 500*.05=25)
If you purposely make the math hard for the crew, don't be upset if they fuck you.
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Go to a different casino! (You haven't played EVERY place!)
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Check the Wizard's page and scroll down to the section on Lay bets. It's definitely supposed to be 5% on the win amount. You have been getting hosed, I'm sorry. If you find a place doing this and after correcting the dealer they still disagree with you, and the pit boss does not agree that you are correct, find a different casino! A certain amount can be allowed for forgetfulness, but I've never had a house refuse to change it once I pointed out their error.
Now when playing the passline I'm sometimes afraid to put down a big odds bet on the 4 & 10 unless I'm way up. If I'm down a lot it's very difficult for me to justify putting a bet down that I have a 33.3% chance of winning, even though it's going to pay me double if it hits and over 1,000,000 rolls I will break even. If I'm down to my last $100 and the point is 4 or 10 and I'm on the passline I usually don't put anything down or like $5
How much do odds do you like to bet on 4 or 10's passline or don't pass players compared to what you would put down on a 5, 6, 8, or 9?
On the don't pass, typically will lay max odds on 4/5/9/10 and typically won't lay any odds against 6/8. Sometimes I'll even over lay the 4/10.
Then again, I don't play craps much since there's no edge. Have yet to play craps with an edge, but the day I do, I'll play as long as the edge presents itself.
You know damn well the Wizard would be clucking at you for cutting back on the odds based on the past luck you had on the number.
Lay max odds and pay no attention to you past luck with any points. To keep it sane, just don't keep betting the DC, have a stopping point so you don't have too much in action.
You know damn well the Wizard would be clucking at you for cutting back on the odds based on the past luck you had on the number.
Very good response.
I feel happier about some things, such as a DC bet that travels to the Four or Ten, but I neither increase nor decrease the money on it than if it had traveled to the SIX or the Eight.
Its RANDOM.
How much do odds do you like to bet on 4 or 10's passline or don't pass players compared to what you would put down on a 5, 6, 8, or 9?
Playing pass line (and come) I typically bet single to double odds on 4,5,9,10 and double to triple odds on 6 and 8, depending on how I am doing. Sure sometimes the point hist when I under-bet it, and sometimes the 6 and 8 are wiped out by a 7-out in record time. And sometimes the reverse is true.
I've noticed that I need to be comfortable making a bet, or comfortable with the risk of making a baet, before I can make it habitually. For example, the good play is to let odds on come bets work on the come out roll. I know this, I even know why this is, and I rarely do it. Why? because I keep fretting about the big, bad seven which will eat my bets and not even spare the odds. The risk just seems too high and I'm uncomfortable with it.
It used to be that way with come bets at all, too, but I've gotten over it. What helped me was precise data on the risk vs reward I could expect, and practicing with Wincraps or other free craps games.
On a $10 line wager, that's $36 on point of 6/8 and $60 on all other points.
I know that mathematically this is a worse bet than laying full odds on all points.
If I'm at a $5 table, I sometimes do the same thing - $18/30/30 but for some reason the lower the original wager the easier it is for me to lay max odds.
I know that this plan is not logical.
I rarely make any other bet - I tend to play strictly DP+odds.
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10. A 10 immediately rolls easy! I lost $100 on that bet! Since I had the hard 10 covered, only one combination could kill me and guess what it did! Earlier at the table 4 or 10 was the point like 5 times in a row and only once did the shooter not make it. You can preach to me about odds all you want, the risk of losing $50 is not worth the reward of winning $25. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Two combinations could kill you. 4-6 and 6-4.
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10. A 10 immediately rolls easy! I lost $100 on that bet! Since I had the hard 10 covered, only one combination could kill me and guess what it did! Earlier at the table 4 or 10 was the point like 5 times in a row and only once did the shooter not make it. You can preach to me about odds all you want, the risk of losing $50 is not worth the reward of winning $25. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
There is one thing that you forget.. Its an oldie but goodie... Its called 'Sh*t Happens' LOL
One little suggestion I have for that might help in that situation is this.. If you are playing the DP and a player hits 2 points and knocks you off. Leave him alone and wait for the next shooter. There are more than enough shooters that will throw a seven for you that to get murdered on the one 'good roll'.
Craps Buy Bet Payout
Another one is 'thou shall not Hedge'. If you are playing the DP and feel the need to cover your bet.. Your mind is telling you to take it down.. Most players get very nervous when there don't pass bet lingers for 9-13 rolls. But what you should realize is that the odds are in your favor, stay with it.. But if you see a guy who is repeating numbers, and you get knocked off, just wait for the next shooter. Its simple..
You may have loss that one result, but as you play more, that loss will be an after thought..
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10.
The difference between wanting and needing gets me many times.Why do you $30 don't pass bet?
Is this your system of play always?
That can not be the table minimum. just my opinion.
At $10 don't pass bet and always lay 2x odds ($40,$30 and $24) one would still have an average bet of $30
and would easily lose less over time verses always betting $30. not just my opinion.
Sure the comps would be way less than betting $30 dpass every come out roll
but I have a feeling they could overcome an actual session loss.
Here is an example of this over the Zumma actual casino dice rolls
s1 = $10 don't pass bet and always lay 2x odds
s2 = $30 don't pass bet
They were offered unlimited casino credit so they had no problem making every bet they wanted to make.
s1 had a session loss of $195 and was way way down at one point
Looks like the comps at cash back ($435) gave s1 a session win.
Craps Lay Bets Payout Bet
sweet sugar sugar Sugars2 lost way more and was even way down at one point.
comps were way higher than s1 as it should be but not enough cash back to erase the session loss.
That had to be paid (the large loss) and not much of a sugar sugar taste from that.
of course, no don't pass player would ever just make bets without ever laying the odds in my opinion. I know I am wrong thinking that way.
Craps Lay Bets Payout Odds
at least we would hope notmy opinion, I would rather like being in s1 shoes than s2 shoes
more fun pulling out a win from cash back with comps when more of your money is on the odds bets
Craps Come Bet Odds Payout
this was fun
Vig should be paid on the WIN for a lay bet, not the BET. I haven't been following them math on this thread, but that is how it has always been done with me. Palm beach kennel club poker room hours. Sometimes an ignorant/slimy (take your pick) pit boss will try to change me 5% on the bet, and I will correct them.
Lay the 4 for $1000? Vig is $25. (Win is 1/2 or $500, 500*.05=25)
If you purposely make the math hard for the crew, don't be upset if they fuck you.
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Go to a different casino! (You haven't played EVERY place!)
Wait..
Everyplace I have ever played charge 5% on the bet, not on the win. How do you get the casino to do otherwise?
Check the Wizard's page and scroll down to the section on Lay bets. It's definitely supposed to be 5% on the win amount. You have been getting hosed, I'm sorry. If you find a place doing this and after correcting the dealer they still disagree with you, and the pit boss does not agree that you are correct, find a different casino! A certain amount can be allowed for forgetfulness, but I've never had a house refuse to change it once I pointed out their error.
Now when playing the passline I'm sometimes afraid to put down a big odds bet on the 4 & 10 unless I'm way up. If I'm down a lot it's very difficult for me to justify putting a bet down that I have a 33.3% chance of winning, even though it's going to pay me double if it hits and over 1,000,000 rolls I will break even. If I'm down to my last $100 and the point is 4 or 10 and I'm on the passline I usually don't put anything down or like $5
How much do odds do you like to bet on 4 or 10's passline or don't pass players compared to what you would put down on a 5, 6, 8, or 9?
On the don't pass, typically will lay max odds on 4/5/9/10 and typically won't lay any odds against 6/8. Sometimes I'll even over lay the 4/10.
Then again, I don't play craps much since there's no edge. Have yet to play craps with an edge, but the day I do, I'll play as long as the edge presents itself.
You know damn well the Wizard would be clucking at you for cutting back on the odds based on the past luck you had on the number.
Lay max odds and pay no attention to you past luck with any points. To keep it sane, just don't keep betting the DC, have a stopping point so you don't have too much in action.
You know damn well the Wizard would be clucking at you for cutting back on the odds based on the past luck you had on the number.
Very good response.
I feel happier about some things, such as a DC bet that travels to the Four or Ten, but I neither increase nor decrease the money on it than if it had traveled to the SIX or the Eight.
Its RANDOM.
How much do odds do you like to bet on 4 or 10's passline or don't pass players compared to what you would put down on a 5, 6, 8, or 9?
Playing pass line (and come) I typically bet single to double odds on 4,5,9,10 and double to triple odds on 6 and 8, depending on how I am doing. Sure sometimes the point hist when I under-bet it, and sometimes the 6 and 8 are wiped out by a 7-out in record time. And sometimes the reverse is true.
I've noticed that I need to be comfortable making a bet, or comfortable with the risk of making a baet, before I can make it habitually. For example, the good play is to let odds on come bets work on the come out roll. I know this, I even know why this is, and I rarely do it. Why? because I keep fretting about the big, bad seven which will eat my bets and not even spare the odds. The risk just seems too high and I'm uncomfortable with it.
It used to be that way with come bets at all, too, but I've gotten over it. What helped me was precise data on the risk vs reward I could expect, and practicing with Wincraps or other free craps games.
On a $10 line wager, that's $36 on point of 6/8 and $60 on all other points.
I know that mathematically this is a worse bet than laying full odds on all points.
If I'm at a $5 table, I sometimes do the same thing - $18/30/30 but for some reason the lower the original wager the easier it is for me to lay max odds.
I know that this plan is not logical.
I rarely make any other bet - I tend to play strictly DP+odds.
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10. A 10 immediately rolls easy! I lost $100 on that bet! Since I had the hard 10 covered, only one combination could kill me and guess what it did! Earlier at the table 4 or 10 was the point like 5 times in a row and only once did the shooter not make it. You can preach to me about odds all you want, the risk of losing $50 is not worth the reward of winning $25. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Two combinations could kill you. 4-6 and 6-4.
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10. A 10 immediately rolls easy! I lost $100 on that bet! Since I had the hard 10 covered, only one combination could kill me and guess what it did! Earlier at the table 4 or 10 was the point like 5 times in a row and only once did the shooter not make it. You can preach to me about odds all you want, the risk of losing $50 is not worth the reward of winning $25. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
There is one thing that you forget.. Its an oldie but goodie... Its called 'Sh*t Happens' LOL
One little suggestion I have for that might help in that situation is this.. If you are playing the DP and a player hits 2 points and knocks you off. Leave him alone and wait for the next shooter. There are more than enough shooters that will throw a seven for you that to get murdered on the one 'good roll'.
Craps Buy Bet Payout
Another one is 'thou shall not Hedge'. If you are playing the DP and feel the need to cover your bet.. Your mind is telling you to take it down.. Most players get very nervous when there don't pass bet lingers for 9-13 rolls. But what you should realize is that the odds are in your favor, stay with it.. But if you see a guy who is repeating numbers, and you get knocked off, just wait for the next shooter. Its simple..
You may have loss that one result, but as you play more, that loss will be an after thought..
Today I had $175 in green chips and I wanted another green chip and the point was 10 so I did something that I now regret. I laid two green chips behind my $30 don't pass bet (point was 10) and I also put a hard 10 down for $10.
The difference between wanting and needing gets me many times.Why do you $30 don't pass bet?
Is this your system of play always?
That can not be the table minimum. just my opinion.
At $10 don't pass bet and always lay 2x odds ($40,$30 and $24) one would still have an average bet of $30
and would easily lose less over time verses always betting $30. not just my opinion.
Sure the comps would be way less than betting $30 dpass every come out roll
but I have a feeling they could overcome an actual session loss.
Here is an example of this over the Zumma actual casino dice rolls
s1 = $10 don't pass bet and always lay 2x odds
s2 = $30 don't pass bet
They were offered unlimited casino credit so they had no problem making every bet they wanted to make.
s1 had a session loss of $195 and was way way down at one point
Looks like the comps at cash back ($435) gave s1 a session win.
Craps Lay Bets Payout Bet
sweet sugar sugar Sugars2 lost way more and was even way down at one point.
comps were way higher than s1 as it should be but not enough cash back to erase the session loss.
That had to be paid (the large loss) and not much of a sugar sugar taste from that.
of course, no don't pass player would ever just make bets without ever laying the odds in my opinion. I know I am wrong thinking that way.
Craps Lay Bets Payout Odds
at least we would hope notmy opinion, I would rather like being in s1 shoes than s2 shoes
more fun pulling out a win from cash back with comps when more of your money is on the odds bets
Craps Come Bet Odds Payout
this was fun
Sally
Craps Lay Bets Payouts
